THE GLADIATOR

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  What is the shelf life of the WT & Awake rags?

  by serenitynow! in

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  at what point do they stop being spiritual food dispensed at the proper time, and start being "apostate .

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  If they are kept on a shelf in the bathroom - a very short life with a messy end!
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  JW's are not nice people

  by Nickolas in

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  2. beliefs

  i cut and pasted the subject line from a comment made by one of this board's longtime members.

  it got me wondering if this is the prevalent thinking in here.

  for a very long time i believed that jw's and all fundamentalist christian folk are a cut above the norm.

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  cheerios

  when i was trying to be a good little JW social climber ... i refused to treat other people in the way i deemed disrespectful and unfair...

  You were a nice person while you were a JW and there are other JWs like you.

  Every church or organisation has its share of nice people and its share of cretins. In a cult the cretins outnumber the nice people. They have the potential to be nice but are forced to herd together and do as the shepherd commands - or leave the flock.
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  JW's are not nice people

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i cut and pasted the subject line from a comment made by one of this board's longtime members.

  it got me wondering if this is the prevalent thinking in here.

  for a very long time i believed that jw's and all fundamentalist christian folk are a cut above the norm.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Most relationships are conditional. This includes relationships in business, at work and with family & friends.

  Being accepted as part of the JW brotherhood or sisterhood, is conditional. We each agreed to these conditions when we joined. Later we changed our minds and left. JWs are nice people provided you keep the conditions of the friendship.

  Leavingwt - referred to the 'CULT personality that you must contend with...' This is what makes the JWs conditions of any relationship particularly unrealistic. They are not allowed to decide for themselves and amend the conditions as they mature. They must obey! Do as they are directed. This robs many of them of their innate compassion and kindness, particularly towards those who develop doubts about their faith.
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  I think I figured out why Jesus ended up being such an important figure in history!

  by sabastious in

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  mary had to make up a story for why she was pregnent after cheating on joseph and it ended up seriously getting out of hand.. -sab.

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  The reason that Jesus ended up being such an important figure in history, is that Rome needed a martyr to adopt that would act as a platform for a new religious power base. They succeeded. When the Roman empire collapsed the Vatican held on to its influence. Simple see!
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  I feel ashamed of some of you

  by Lady Lee in

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  i did not sleep well last night.

  i tossed and turned until 4 am .

  got up and decided to see what was going on.. i am so disappointed in some of you.. simon posted a thread requesting people not post links to the new shepherding book.

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  It's a shame you had a poor nights sleep Lady Lee

  This business about the way we treat Jehovah's witnesses that come here has bothered me for a while. I have only started 4 threads this year. One of them was:

  Is it unacceptable to stand up for Jehovah's Witnesses on a site called Jehovah's-Witness.net?

  People were divided on the matter but I like to think they took on board other people's points.
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  Just look at how they changed these lyrics in the new song book

  by WingCommander in

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  this is disgusting!!!

  we've all heard that the new song book is really, really, really bad......but i didn't see many examples cited of just how they changed some of the wording.

  oh sure, we all know by now how incredibly hard it is to sing along with the garbage they wrote, tempo, lack of beat, odd rythm, timing, etc, etc.

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  Disgusting!!! Who put these old geezers in Jesus' place? Unbelievable!!!

  You certainly have a way with words WingCommander

  The JW song book has always been devised to plant thoughts in the sub-conscious of the gullible fools who give voice to these mind numbingly crass lyrics.

  The new song book has become more blatant. Perhaps the 'steward here on earth' realises it is losing its grip and is becoming less subtle.
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  If You Were a Member of an Oppressed Minority ...

  by snowbird in

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  how do you think you would be getting along now?.

  why?.

  asked in all sincerity.. syl.

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  Many here are an oppressed minority, being shunned by family and friends who are still JWs.

  To discriminate against people for exercising their right to worship, or not, in the way that they wish, amounts to oppression.
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  If Jehovah God Chose Russell & The Bible Students Why Did He Give Them So Much Inaccurate Information?

  by minimus in

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  hmmm.

  either jehovah god (the perfect god) didn't give that information.

  it never was the "truth" in the first place..

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  God works in mysterious ways - but you already knew that Minimus
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  Soldiers of Jah

  by cofty in

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  2. bible

  i would like to propose an ethical dilemma for those who believe in the divine inspiration of the bible.. in the following scenarios i am not asking you what you would have done but rather, what you hope you would have had the courage to do.. scenario 1. you are camped on the east side of the jordan waiting for orders to cross into the promised land.

  moses is nearing the end of his life but he has some unfinished business to take care of before he hands over to joshua.

  he announces that he has had an instruction from god to take revenge on the midianites before he dies.

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  All history books are full of accounts of bloodshed, torture and selfish acts by mankind. The history of the 20th century is no better. Recently, Bush and Blair both said that God told them to attack Iraq.

  Man has invented many gods and used them as scapegoats for their barbaric actions. They have written many Holy books and claimed they were inspired to write them. Obviously we need to look beyond these self serving history books, if we are to make progress in our search for answers to the mystery of the universe.

  There are spiritual paths that seek to explain the hidden forces behind mankinds actions. They don't insist that we accept the notion of a man styled deity shouting out instructions from the sky. Until we get past that man made concept of a god, debates like this will continue for infinitem.
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  A God of love?

  by MrFreeze in

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  they try to tell you god is love.

  if that isn't the biggest load i've ever heard than i don't know what is.. god is love huh?

  what would you say if i told you that there was a child that was deathly ill and the father had the cure?

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Hadit

  It would follow then that a lot of people are STILL unconscious...

  This is the idea behind eastern philosophy/religion Lao Tzu and Buddha said that most of us move through our lives like sleepwalkers, never really present in what we are doing, never fully alert to our environment, and unaware what motivates us to say and do the things we do.

  I'm not endorsing these men but there is some truth in their observations.